I was not always the Apple fanatic that I am today. A couple of years ago, I was dead against buying Macs because I thought they were pricey machines that do not offer anything special to justify their price. I still think they are expensive, but I understand the competition just can not parallel the experience that comes along with a Mac. Still, let the record show that I currently own a PC and any problems I have with Windows 7 are minimal.
However, I have always loved my iPhone. My first was a 3G — the 2008 model. Then last year I upgraded to the iPhone 4 after my two-year contract with AT&T expired. I honestly do not consider myself biased toward Apple. There is a difference between being biased and being loyal to a product. If another company makes a better phone than the iPhone, I would happily push Apple aside and use that phone. But no one is making anything better.
A lot of people think Google has successfully created a better smart phone product with Android. I have spent some time with Android, though not a lot. I used phones like the Motorola Droid and the HTC Droid Incredible for maybe an hour each and formed an opinion. I never spent an extended period of time with an Android up until last week. I received my Kyocera Echo review unit in the mail and recently posted my full opinion on the device to Skatter Tech. It is not exactly a reputable phone.
But despite the gripes I have with the Echo, I did get to experience Android for an extended period of time. I understand that the hardware can dramatically affect the software, but that is not what I want to comment on. Is Android better than iOS? That is the simple question I found out for myself.
First, let me talk about what I did enjoy in Android that I wish Apple would implement in iOS. I really like the widgets. In my experience, they are a useful way to check small bits of information without having to launch an app and close it again. Society today is constantly on the go and we need our smart phones to support that. Android has widgets, Windows Phone 7 has live tiles, and Apple just has a sea of icons that require activation.
Now about the whole Flash thing. A lot of people complain about the lack of Adobe love on iOS, but I never really had a problem with it because I rarely visit websites that require the plugin. On Android, is it buggy? In a nutshell, yes. I would not go as far as to say Flash cripples the experience, but it absolutely has its flaws. I always thought Apple should at least give users the option on iOS. Even if they turn off Flash by default because they feel it degrades the browser, a switch in the settings to turn it on could do no harm. If the user agrees with Apple, then by all means turn it off again.
There are other small things worth noting like the great notification system, but since Apple is improving that in iOS 5, it is no longer an advantage to Android.
Time for what I do not like about Android — the part everyone anxiously awaits. Some people do not care about this, but there is absolutely no polish or attention to detail. The subtle animations in iOS and the consistency of the UI just make my iPhone a pleasure to use. There is nothing to figure out. It just works.
I have yet to encounter a single Android smart phone that has a touchscreen as smooth and accurate as the iPhone, iPod touch, or iPad. It has been years since the iPhone came out, and why manufacturers can not perfect touch technology beats me. Switching over to the Echo was almost frustrating in this regard.
With over 200,000 apps, everyone is going to find something in the Android Market to pique their interest. The problem is that most of the apps are just not good. Thanks to the approval process in the iOS app store, developers must maintain a high standard of quality, and they do. On Android, if an app consistently crashes or does not work correctly, it becomes the user’s problem instead of the developer’s problem. And if it means anything, the apps are ugly too.
Finally, some may just dislike the iPhone for hardware reasons. The latest Android phones have dual-core processors at blazing speeds, while the iPhone is single-core and experts believe the speed is slightly less than 1 GHz. This is true, but Android is such a resource hog that the less powerful iPhone is still comparable in speed.
So, now that I had a more in-depth experience with Android, does it defeat the iPhone once and for all? No. I am still a loyal Apple fanboy and I am sticking with my iPhone. Of course there are more small details I left out — good and bad — but these are my main findings. I do have a bit more respect for Android, however. It gets a lot of bad press when I consider it a fairly worthy competitor. If the operating system evolves and proves better than the iPhone, as I said, I will make the switch. Currently, my iPhone provides a great experience that Android has not yet matched.
Your title says it all. Apple lover…. The Kyocera echo is a horrible phone to have to work with even with Android on it. Perhaps you should try a different, better Android phone before forming a complete decision, but since you are biased ( even though you believe you are not your own words betray you….) I wouldn’t listen to your opinion anyways. Sure, Apple has a great UI, but so does android, and I refuse to have to shell out more cash than necessary for a phone when I can find another that is just as good if not better. IPhone=iTunes=Icage. I’m done dealing with Apple and their greed. Also, flash is just such a contentious theme with Apple lovers. Android has it, Apple doesn’t, and when an app was released in the Apple app store that did have it the sheer number of downloads screwed their servers. It might be slightly buggy on some android phones but it works well on mine. Stop saying it doesn’t matter because it does. The android app store is growing every day and again I love the fact that I don’t have to shell out tons of cash for them.
I understand the Kyocera Echo is pretty bad, but as I said I have used other Android phones. Plus, all the pros and cons of Android I mentioned apply to all Android phones, not just the Echo.
The title of this article should be “Apple lover compares Apple’s flagship device to a low end device from a second rate manufacturer.” Also when will apple people stop talking about the “feel” and “polish” of ios? Sure stock android may not have the stupid animations that ios has but with android you can install a number of different launchers (go launcher, SPB 3D shell, ADW, Launcher Pro) that give that polished feel and level of customization that ios will NEVER have. Not only can you have those stupid animations with android, you can choose what you want the animations to do. It really comes down to choice. If you don’t want choice and you just want to open the box and use the phone, get an iphone. If you enjoy customizing the feel and experience of your device get an android.
I think you are missing the point of my mentioning the animations. And again, all the pros and cons of Android I mentioned apply to all Android phones, not just the Echo.
Really? Which ones? Laggy? Ugly apps? bad UI? Animations? As Greg mentioned, you can customize which animations you want. Star Wars fan, sure. Miss Congeniality fan, sure. You are still insisting that your pros and cons apply to all phones. Wake up, and accept that you did not do a good job!!
And yes, please take my comment out of moderation.
I’m not missing the point when you talk about animations. I understand that the little animations are some of the little things that to you give ios a better ‘feel’ or ‘experience’. You don’t understand what I’m saying. Android being as open as it is, you can add that functionality if you choose to. Apple doesn’t give you the choice. Period! Like LaGeek mentioned all the other drawbacks you mentioned can easily be attributed to using a low end handset, I don’t care how many screens it has.
This “article” shows myself and any other knowledgeable android user two things. 1. You, either by choice or ignorance chose a poor platform to compare ios and android. 2. You clearly didn’t spend enough time getting to know the android operating system. You didn’t mention any of the major advantages of android like true 3rd party application integration or application replacement.
Going back to my main point. IOS is a good product and I do see value in the devices that run it. However, apple devices are for people who do not care about having control over their device. They just want to open the box and use the device. Android is for people who do value choice and enjoy being in control of their device.
Greg and LaGeek if I could +1 your comments I would! Couldn’t agree more. The reason why iPhones are so popular amongst the masses is because it is for people who want a simple and accessible experience where they can go from point A -> B without getting lost. Apple was smart when they create the iPhone, but I personally don’t like having my hand held by a company, which is why I love the Android. I change the layout of my phone all the time, from the theme, widgets, apps, programs, and I love it. The iPhone only has a different picture in the background if you want or you can group your apps in similar boxes to the app boxes – boring! I have played with iPhones in the past and it is nothing special. The phone quickly becomes out-dated and dont’ get me started on iTunes. I love how I just plug my phone into my computer and drag-and-drop files easily onto my phone without having to update or sync it up all the time. Even better, I can push files from my computer directly to my phone without having to connect it! In my honest opinion, if the applications were on the same level as Apple’s selection everyone would get an Android phone because unlike the iPhone where you are forces to stick with one manufactured product that may have a different colour (lame), you have such variety and chose that you can choose the phone that fits your style and preference. iPhone lovers = Mindless Zombies. Android lovers = Zombie Killers!
The kid is right, an iphone 4 can only compare to a worthless Android phone. Because if he actually did use a top of the line Android, he would be forced to switch.
His review equates an Hugo (echo), iphone 4 (old corolla every ones got one because of qualty). Now if he would have used an Incredible2 (Lexus), Sensation (Infinity) or a Galaxy s2 (BMW) or a Mobiato (Rolls Royce). He would have to drop is beloved Iphone 4.
George, comparing the iPhone 5, to what amounts to one of the cheapest and nastiest android phones out there is really not fair, as has been pointed out. If you want to compare like for like, or flag ship to flag ship, try comparing http://androidadvices.com/samsung-galaxy-ii-os-interface-apps-review/ to the iPhone 5, or the Desire HD perhaps to the iPhone 4. The latter two I’ve used at the same time, and IMHO the DHD wins hands down (in fact, I ended up picking up a second one for my wife).
i have to disagree with this, basically due to the level of customization android allows, sure maybe customization isn’t for everyone, but with android you have the ability to create that polished experience. you can change things so dramatically in android that you can make things appear and function as if it wasn’t even android at all, install different keyboards, sms apps, contacts apps, even entirely different launchers and OS’s. all the while you can’t even customize an sms ringtone on iOS. i feel like this was a huge oversight in a review that is purported to be a fair comparison. when people pick my phone up and use it they always ask, “what OS is this, this doesn’t look like android” and it’s because i have done a lot of work to it. and that is where android really really shines/thrives. i know some people may say iOS is just beautiful from the get-go, and it is, it’s a fluid smooth gorgeous os, but it’s essentially only an app launcher. customization may not be for the faint of heart, but the options are there, and they are robust. this is why i ditched iOS, it didn’t allow me to make my phone mine.
I guess if you want to “do a lot of work” on a phone, then Android is a great choice…
Uh yeah, UK definitely into having Tue phone function how I want it to in every aapect, instead of having no control over everything. Congrats on your article, you’re obviously a troll, and a bad one. Hope writing isn’t your day job, lol at every comment ripping you apart
I also want to point out something. I love multitasking and the iPhone truly doesn’t offer you that. Freezing an application is not the same as running it in the background. I recommended iPhones for people who just don’t really care about their phone and don’t mind being spoonfeed. Seriously, you download an app and it’s on your screen. So simple for simple people. However, I’m a lil more complex than that, and I love the freedom my android gives me to personalize it for me.
Thanks for saying exactly what I was thinking Sweet. I’m sorry George but your other experience with android phones is still not valid in my honest opinion. Both of the other phones you listed aren’t that great themselves. The thing with Android devices is some companies do them really well, and some companies don’t. I’ve personally hated my experience with Motorola. An iPhone is and iPhone. If 8 different companies made different versions of the iPhone, I guarantee you would find quite a few less than desirable ones out there. Wish you would have taken the time to look at a device like the Nexus S, for example. I’d be curious to hear what your opinion is after using one. Btw, you can get one for 99 bucks.
Why the heck did you pick that phone to use in comparison to an iPhone? Why wouldn’t you pick a top end phone to compare to the iPhone, something like the Droid X2 maybe? I have the Fascinate and I have zero problems with touch screen functionality. In fact, I own an iPod Touch and my parents own iPhones, both have the same feel as my phone. Flash can be turned off on Android devices but I haven’t had a problem with flash hindering any web browsing experiences. The only grievance I have with Android is that some of the apps force close all the time. iPhone does the same thing but Android devices are much more frequent. I hate that there isn’t a designated back-button on iPhones and I hate the multitasking on iOS. You have one button on an iPhone, a home button and everything else you have to figure out. On Android devices, you not only have a home button but also a menu, back and search button. iPhones are a screen of apps, Android devices are much more than that.
Ok, here we go.
1. You used the echo, and there was a lag. I had a iphone 3G with iOS4 on it. And it was useless, pretty much, laggier than my Windows Tilt phone from 4 years back. If I used that as a comparison against, say the Inspire that I am using right now, this entire review would be reversed. So when you compare, compare similar phones. Comprende? Unfortunately, since anyone can put Android anywhere, it is NOT Android’s problem that they run it on bad hardware(like iOS4 on iphone 3g).
2. Ill tell you this. I use an INspire, doesnt even have dual core, and it is buttery smooth. Apps are ugly? You are kidding me, arent you? All the apps in iOS are on Android, and have the same look. Again, Android market being open, anyone can upload any app, shitty or good. What apps did you test? I would really like to hear before you call them “ugly”.
3. In 4 or 5 paragraphs, your claim is one is better than the other. I would atleast give you _some_ respect if you did an indepth analysis. Any talk about the customizations in Android? Home screens? Launchers? Custom ROMs(maybe not for you, but for a lot of us, the biggest reason, head over to xda to see what I am talking about), different hardware profiles(want kb, sure, want a bigger screen sure, LOVE my 4.3 inch screen), custom keyboards(ever used SwiftX or Swype, it cuts down my typing time to 25%), I can go on and on.
I can go on and on, having used both as my primary device for over a year, each. In short, maybe this is what you honestly think, but your review is absolutely shallow, sorry you just dont know what you are talking about. Coming from an iphone to the Inspire, I will never go back to the iphone. Please dont joke around and say you have a “more in depth experience”. Amazing how the internet can result in anyone calling themselves and expert and publishing reviews. Standards of Journalism have gone down a lot.
1. I reiterate, I am not comparing phones. I am comparing operating systems.
2. They are ugly.
3. I could have included customizations, but everything I mentioned in the article were my main findings, as said.
You didnt answer my questions.
1. Its like saying you compare driving comfort, an are comparing a BMW to a Civic. Compare an Audi to a BMW. Pick the right phone.
2. What is ugly? Tried Sense? Tried TW? Tried any custom launchers? You are obstinate without actual supporting facts.
I came back just to see whats going on, but clearly, you dont know anything, and are not willing to accept. Not coming back to this website, happened to come on here somehow. Added to my blocked list.
@LaGeek, you are obviously wasting your time with this guy. He clearly doesn’t understand what everyone commenting on this “article” is saying. If he doesn’t understand how the hardware platform effects the user experience of a device he has no business writing about them. On top of that when he uses the sentence “They are ugly” to defend his opinion it is not longer an article, it is just another worthless blog of an apple fanboy.
@George, in response to your “I guess if you want to “do a lot of work” on a phone, then Android is a great choice…” comment. The amount of work put into customizing the experience of an android phone is irrelevant. I could spend 2 minutes customizing or I could spend a week. The point is and always was, if you want choice, android is a good choice.
Agreed, you are also wasting time trying to explain the concept of customization to a conformist. It is like trying to explain capitalism to a socialist.
Since I received an overwhelming response from the article about not including the customizable aspects of Android, I am considering doing a follow-up in the future.
I find the iphone clunky by comparison to android. Small screen, slow, heavy, and just feels out of date compared to the latest android devices. Besides the fact that apple just sucks…..
Is this sarcasm?
Ah, so someone saying your favourite phone is small and clunky is sarcasm? Interesting. Very fanboish. My previous comment which “is awaiting moderation” had a point by point comparison based on yours, and it was obvious your comparison is pretty bad, I would expect someone who has used a good Android phone for a few weeks to write better.
My apologies about the comment moderation issue.
@Lageek, the name says it all GEEK!! your the Fandroid here so stop it with your biased false opinions.how dare you say that the iPhone is clunky you must be out of your god damned mind! Do you even know what your talking about I don’t think so because the definition of clunky is android!! All their phones are huge and ginormous!! Their quality sucks made out of cheap materials and get outdated every few weeks with a brand new one especially those 4.3 inch screens that look retarded in a persons hand like are you kidding me?!. You obviously must be crazy or you’ve been sucking on way too much android juice lately!. You are erroneous, opinionated, biased and most importantly WRONG, how dare you!
Perhaps you haven’t had the pleasure of using a Samsung Galaxy S II. I too am an Apple lover and switched from my iPhone4 to this.
Apple finally has some worthy competition – compared to the iPhone4, the S2 is much faster, has a bigger and more vibrant screen, allows video chat with Google Talk over 3g and I don’t need iTunes to copy music over!
I actually said in the article Android is a worthy competitor.
Without any supporting facts? And your cons are laughable.
Wow. Just wow.The only thing iOS has going for it in terms of UI is smoothness when compared to mid to low end Android phones (Like the one you tried out). Other than that, it’s just a sea of icons. And why don’t you try the Samsung Galaxy S2? What? Not fair cuz it’s much newer than Iphone4? Considering the Iphone4 in my area STILL costs more than the just released Galaxy S2 (Canada) I think it’s fair.
I am an android user and apple abuser. I originally owned an iphone and and have used macbooks for 4+ years now. Still every chance I get i try to find better alternatives to apple. I hate the degree of liberty apple takes in determining/controlling the user experience, and interestingly, at the same time i find my self stuck with apple products because of the stability and aesthetic sensibilities of the user experience (although the second one is only supplementary). Apple would like me to believe i cant have one without the other, and although I know this is true to some extent I certainly know it is not true to extent which they use it justify their wanton ways.
Do I like android more? well i guess so. But honestly i think that would be better stated if i said, “do i hate android less?” In which case i say, yes. And actually the very same points made in this article are the exact ones that i have refined my most substantial gripes about android down to. Stability, aesthetics, and quality control (in the apps and UI). BUt until apple decides that its none of their fucking business whether or not I am allowed to access the file directory on my phones SD card or delete files w/o having to connect to itunes, load flash, modify my homescreens functionality, etc, etc, putting up with androids repulsive half baked foolishness definitely succeeds as the lesser of two evils. Although its shamelessly buggy, its usable. Such is the state of affairs.
I agree with pretty much everything in this article. Although I must add, I just hate the way apple operates on a moral level. They are great with aesthetics and other innovations but when they do things like sue samsung for using square icons or HTC for having a lock screen on an all touch device (common sense things that shouldnt be awarded patents in the first place) AND AT THE SAME TIME turn around and rip off HTCs (actual) innovation of dragging to launch apps from the lockscreen or Androids notification system function for function – i think they are cry baby bitches, anti-competitive, and seriously just need some one to give them a good sweltering spanking.
All of your complaints and praises were valid and I do understand. You should comment more.
How come my previous comment is still awaiting moderation while other comments after mine are online already? Because it doesnt reflect you in good light? Amazing. I would think you learn to take criticism about your own work.
Hey La Geek,
Just letting you know that I am working on approving your post. Our EIC normally approves the longer posts, but he is out for the week. But I just wanted to let you know that I’m working on your situation. Thanks for the support.
I guess I have to do comment by comment:
1. You used the echo, and there was a lag. I had a iphone 3G with iOS4 on it. And it was useless, pretty much, laggier than my Windows Tilt phone from 4 years back. If I used that as a comparison against, say the Inspire that I am using right now, this entire review would be reversed. So when you compare, compare similar phones. Comprende? Unfortunately, since anyone can put Android anywhere, it is NOT Android’s problem that they run it on bad hardware(like iOS4 on iphone 3g).
2. Ill tell you this. I use an INspire, doesnt even have dual core, and it is buttery smooth. Apps are ugly? You are kidding me, arent you? All the apps in iOS are on Android, and have the same look. Again, Android market being open, anyone can upload any app, shitty or good. What apps did you test? I would really like to hear before you call them “ugly”.
I’m largely staying out of this nonsense argument, but in as far as I own both an iPhone and a HTC Inspire, the OP’s point is valid. I enjoy each of the phones for varying reasons, but iOS apps trump their equivalent Android counterparts hands down. No debate.
sure it’s debatable, most android apps are free when there are multiplatform ones, like angry birds, they’ve made more money in the android market than in the iOS from advertising, and if you say you’d rather pay than see ads, fine, but all i have to do is install adblock and i get both. i’ll have to say i like my android variations of apps more than my ipod because they can actually access system API’s and have more functionality, and generally look better imo
3. In 4 or 5 paragraphs, your claim is one is better than the other. I would atleast give you _some_ respect if you did an indepth analysis. Any talk about the customizations in Android? Home screens? Launchers? Custom ROMs(maybe not for you, but for a lot of us, the biggest reason, head over to xda to see what I am talking about), different hardware profiles(want kb, sure, want a bigger screen sure, LOVE my 4.3 inch screen), custom keyboards(ever used SwiftX or Swype, it cuts down my typing time to 25%), I can go on and on.
I think that, as others have noted, you really should not have compared the two phones that you did. I think that an hour on a couple of other phones does not provide an accurate understanding of what it is really like to use the phones, etc. It takes quite a while to unlearn the habits you have formed with a certain type of OS and comfortably switch to a new platform. I think even after a week you will still be saying things like, “I like the way iOS does this more” only because that is how you have learned how to do those things. Same with being used to right-click on a PC and not being able to use it on a mac, it becomes a matter of preference based on how you have learned how to interact with your OS.
You say that everything is just related to the OS, but each android maker offers their own version of Android, so, really, you should try using a top of the line Motorola or Samsung phone for an extended period of time before making broad statements and judgments. The screen problems you mentioned are 100% a hardware thing.
I am not comparing phones. And some manufacturers might offer skins and UI layers, but underneath it all, it’s still Android.
You continue to compare OS’s which is software that depending on how powerful the hardware is determine how much of the OS capabilities can be harnessed. For example, Cryteck is a software company that comes out with amazing engines that blow computers out of the water. Low-to-mid computers either can’t run or are really laggy at running the engine, not due to the fault of the software company but on people who don’t understand technology to know that you shouldn’t be running such a powerhouse engine on a dinky computer. The point that I am trying to make is that there is so much power behind the AndroidOS that in order to properly use it you need a high-end phone capable of demonstrating the true beauty of the OS. Unlike Android which runs on multiple phones, with varies SDKs, and layouts, etc., the iPhone is the only phone running iOS. Therefore, the point that most people are trying to make is in order to have a fair comparison you need to use a phone that is capable of using the full beauty of the AndroindOS. I think the main issue I had with your arguement is that it seemed like you were coming at it with an Apple-biased beforehand rather then a neutral point of view which is why so many people are calling you out because it is an unfair review. I don’t blame you for liking the iOS on iPhone4, my roommate has it too and she loves it because it is easy for her to use and it does everything she wants it to do, but that is because it is simple and doesn’t have a lot of layers underneath, unlike the Android where you could get lost for days trying to really take advantage of all the features and things to do with the phone. I have had my HTC Legend (lower-end phones I might add) for about a year and a half and I am still figuring out stuff with my phone. It is this customization, depth, and richness that make Android supporters stay with the OS. Not to mention the updates are huge in comparison to Apples iOS updates. Thanks for your opinion though :-) It was fun to comment on your article.
lol. I give up. All comments, including new ones, awaiting moderation. Adios.
Approved now :) Again, I apologize. We do care about your opinions and value your input.
The real point of Android is freedom. I don’ t have to buy the exact same phone that everyone else has. and also Miren browser allows you to load flash on demand.
“The real point of Android is freedom. I don’ t have to buy the exact same phone that everyone else has.”
How is that a good argument? Does buying a phone that other people have make the iPhone a bad phone?
See, now again, you are taking it personally. No one is saying the iphone is a bad phone, everyone objects to YOUR characterization of Android. See the difference?
Yes I think freedom is a very good argument. Without certain freedoms your opinion would not be heard. With android I have the choices to buy a phone that”s different sizes, more business minded, for media purposes, or for gaming, Wheres the Iphone with slid out controller? Wheres the Iphone with a keyboard? Wheres the Iphone you don’t have to Jailbreak to get any sort of function? Wheres the red Iphone? Thats why freedom is a very valid argument.
I give it up for the iPhone but if you want control/choice you can’t beat android. Also if you like Me use a lot of Google services You can’t beat Android. We will always have our differences in opinion but iPhone users cannot belittle Android anymore. Android is popular and pretty Dahm good compared to Android.
I meant iPhone (
Used an iphone since it was first launched in the US years ago, jailbroken and upgraded to 3.x. Wonderful hardware and UI at that time. Now with android and all the customizable user interfaces like ADW ex, IOS looks old and drab, same shape, same icons, unexciting. Every iteration is more of the same. Can I suggest you look at the more powerful android phones and add on a customizable launcher like ADW Ex plus a live wallpaper. You can still make the icons look iphonish if you miss the iphone ones.
worthless comparison.
Sorry.
I disagree with this article. First of all, the Kyocera Echo is a terrible device to use to get a real feel for Android. Fail. There’s a laundry list of better devices, the Sensation, the Nexus S, Droid X2, Droid Incredible2, HTC Inspire, EVO…hell the Nexus One is still better than the Echo and it’s almost a year and a half old. Widgets being the main focus of benefits is just a limited opinion. Some would say ignorant. Widgets are great, sure but what about, customization (launchers, keyboards, calendars, etc) are all benefits. mSDcard support is a definite benefit as well as having a removable battery. The fact that Google sync isn’t even mentioned is a joke considering that move to cloud storage for the masses and iOS’s dependence on iTunes. I have quite a few quality apps on my devices so I disagree with your opinion there. Also considering your choice of Android device to use, I certainly don’t trust your opinion on app selection and quality.
If I had a dollar for each time someone said “Flash sucks” and I show them Flash running on my Xoom/Transformer/Nexus one/Vibrant only to watch their faces crack as they witness it first hand … Apple doesn’t want flash because of sites like Kongregate. I have access to over 400 flash games just having the Kongregate app installed. Why spend money on app store games if you can play good games for free with flash? That’s why Apple won’t support it because it will cut into app store sales. Sure Flash isn’t perfect on mobile and all of the flash games aren’t good but it’s better than people give it credit for by far. Especially when sites exist like Anivide.com. I’ve watched entire seasons of Bleach and Naruto thanks to that site, my Xoom and flash.
This article isn’t written from a position of knowledge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRaXL1L65Vg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96_4uMsosdc
“Apple doesn’t want flash because of sites like Kongregate.”
Read this: http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
This is where “choice” matters. Give ME the choice whether I want to run it or not. Why should Apple make that choice? They have become moral lords of this world. On Android, I see an icon where there is flash, and if I want to play it, I hit the icon. Simple. MY choice.
I believe I mentioned choice in the article.
actually, we need to be clear about one thing. youtube works on the iphone for one reason: that google went out of its way to redesign its youtube website just so that the iphone can access it without flash. if not for that, iphone would pretty much be the only smartphone in the market that cannot access youtube. i think steve jobs forgot to mention that.
no opinions on iphone vs android even though i use android. it’s choice. you want apple, or robot, up to you, respect other people’s decision. i feel the need, though, to put jobs in his place.
oh one more thing. uninstall flash on your comp. then tell me how many sites you normally use that you can actually access now. flash is a very important part of the internet and it’s really not going to go away. html5 will not replace, but rather, complement flash.
I’m soooo tired of articles that read like this. You need to spend a lot more time than an hour, a day, or a week with a phone to get the true flavor of it.
IPhones are okay phones, especially for older users. I got one for my mom because she needed something simple to understand. :)
Seriously this GEORGE dude had no idea of what a phone comparison review is all about..
I’m sorry.
Choice is Freedom. Your getting a little hypocritical now aren’t you?
Choosing between phones is different. That’s not a feature that makes the OS any better, but that’s just my opinion. I’m not a fan of choice. I just want a single phone that does it all. And besides, Apple currently gives a choice between high-end iPhone 4 and low-end 3GS. Android phones may have many more options, but in the end it’s either going to be high-end, mid-range, or low-end. Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about the different editions of Windows?
you want a single phone that does everything but the Iphone does nothing compared to android phones. Almost every one of your statements contradictory.
agreed with below androiders comments (Friendly Androider speaking here!! :) … reading your review reminds more of a personal opinion rather than correct comparison between 2 phones (First I would face-off the specs what differs them CPU, speed etc…) … 1 or 2 weeks spending with the OS is just too short to really make a strong consolidated case once you find out the great potential the Android OS is capable of which requires alot of savvyness on your part if you really want to get down to rooting (or jailbreak in iOS) and change things around with your phone… worth mentioning is the open source which iOS is NOT is it fair to compare?? rather with OS Mango (Microsoft) would be more fair I think.. Plus many Allellujahs to the opensource community like XDA,com devs which come up with crazzinesses every single day to turn things around with your phone and skew Google stock bloatware away… not surprised if S Jobs eavedrops to the jailbreak community and steal their ideas which kind of happening with iOS5… my personal take on the market right now… my personal preference is with ANdroid though… CHeers…
Good android phones right now HTC sensation and SSG II… to make a fair comparison out of..
The only phone with a true comparison to iPhone would be nexus as they run the same chipset, plus its pure OS v pure OS, what you did was like comparing a Nissan micra with a BMW m series and “discovering ” the BMW was better? One phone is £450 the other £4.50?
Lmao that’s exactly what he did….
Didn’t compare phones.
Hi George.
I think a big part of what makes iOS smooth is the hardware acceleration. What the end user doesn’t perhaps realise is that for acceleration to work the drivers and OS need to match the component configuration that the OS was written for. For one configuration per generation as is the case for iOS that is a very attainable goal.
When dealing with AOSP (Android Open Source Project) any idiot can kang together a version of Android for their hardware. The downside of this is that there quite quickly becomes so many different configurations of components in Android devices. The upshot of this is that for the budget android devices hw acceleration just does not exist. The higher end of android device do however have a custom launcher (Samsung has Touchwiz, HTC have Sense etc) which does incorporate device specific acceleration. I wish you could have picked one of the higher end devices but hey ho, you didn’t.
Not only did you pick a low end device but if I am not mistaken, the echo is running Froyo. That is 2 and soon to be 3 software versions ago. The equivalent would have been iOS 2 or if being generous iOS 3. Was cut and paste implemented for iOS 2?
I also had an iPhone 3G which I quickly jailbroke to free up some more functionality, I did upgrade to the iPhone 4 but quickly sold it and jumped ship to Android and haven’t looked back. Out of the box my HTC Desire was more customisable than the jailbroken iPhone 4.
In summary, I agree that there is too much fragmentation in Android OS but I personally find the ability to customise to my hearts content liberating.
I absolutely loved my iPhone for what it was but found how locked down it was a frustration even after jailbreaking. That said for someone who wants a slick and simple UI then I can still see the appeal.
What you have done as an experiment appeals to me but I do wish you had at least compared a gingerbread equipped device of similar spec to iPhone 4.
Another apple fanboy I see I use to be also but android donates apples iphone I started just like you my first was a iphone 3g then was stupid enoug eh too wait outside for 3 hours for the iphone 4 which I got 3 days early and after the iphone 4 I just started dislikeing apple the iphone can’t compare to android i
Guys stop wasting your time with this dude aka George Tinari……….. I have nothing against Apple…. in fact! I was one of the 1st go own the 1st ever iPhone….. but I stop using it when the 1st Android the G1 came out….. iOS in my opinion is boring….. is just an application launcher……. and you can’t customize it….. the iPhone device is a very good looking phone that is true but that’s it…. it sells because of the brand….”Apple”. So people go crazy….. since Google is not a brand known for selling or making hardware people look at Apple…. most of the people who own iPhones don’t know jack about technology, and some buy it just to say they got it and some like GEORGE buy it to say they cool…… Android is for hardcore users who know about technology and who want total control of their Device….. to do what ever they want with no limit…… I own the iPhones 2G, 3G and 4 and they all look the same….. I own the G1, MyTouch 3G, Nexus One and Nexus S…… and they all look different not just in the hardware department. But in the OS! Thanks to the beauty of customization in Android…. so as you can see GEORGE! this is the difference between iOS and Android……. you like your iPhone that’s cool but don’t make NONSENSE, STUPID, IDIOTIC, RETARDED comparison review.
Probably should of just compared the iphone to a Moto Razr
Ha ha……! yeh did u know an iPhone is better than a 2 cans connected by string ..? Lol and Android is not as fast as the IBM’s supercomputer blue gene? Apparently its true
this comparision is pointless. how come an iphone lover compare iphone with other phone (and not usual iphone lover but iphone fanboy as you said). in addition to that, you chose one of the worest android device to compare it with the iphone4 that is not fair. and you didn’t mention anything about the iphone weakneses, if you don’t know any, please visit thie website:
http://theiphonefever.blogspot.com/p/idont-list.html
and you need to read this post before you write again
https://plus.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wX#113070422033274639984/posts/TjKgmC9TPX5
excellent
why didn’t you reply to this post??????